How I realized I was over Star Wars completely

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Tom Foolery wrote:Isn't Rogue One supposed to be the story of stealing the DS plans, which would put it immediately preceding ANH?
Why would young Han Solo and not Harrison Ford aged Han Solo be in the movie? It's like a few weeks or months earlier.
I'm bad at character ages and the detailed timeline of Star Wars, but I thought Han was around 30 during ANH. 20-25 seemed too young for Han at that time, but maybe they were going to put makeup on him to make him look older.
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I'm assuming they'll go with Dave Franco to get the fangirl money - he's close enough to Han's age at the time of ANH to make it work.
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Man I loved the KanjiKlub, didn't recall their names tho. I only want figures of them and the leprechaun guy.
I really did like the movie, my sole complaint was them stupid octo-things, they just looked terrible and were dumb
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Yeah that was like a 2 min Men In Black interlude & I wasn't sure about it either honestly. I'm still in the camp where yes, of course there were silly things & things I would have done differently - but MAN, the awesome was AWESOME & totally outweighed them.

If someone wins the powerball make it so that we can all watch the next one together in person on opening night in a reserved theater... the commentary alone would be outstanding.
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I took that scene to be a commentary on how so many characters in the prequels were goofy stereotypes- the Irish guy was painfully stereotypical and hilarious, and then a bunch of south-ast asian stereotype triad-type characters appear named "Kanjiklub", Kanji being the japanese set of characters that they stole from the chinese and altered and called their own- tho Kanji is basically transliterated perfectly and "borrowed Chinese Characters".

I thought that bit was hilarious
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This occurred to me over the weekend. BB-8 is kind of like the kid they brought into 70-80's sitcoms after they started to go downhill. I think it is called Cousin Oliver Syndrome. They did it in Brady Bunch, Family Ties, & Cosby Show to name a few.

Edit: I just googled Cousin Oliver BB-8, and it appears I'm not the first to think of this.
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Except BB-8 doesn't suck.
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I'll be the first to admit: I expected BB-8 to be worse than Jar Jar. He absolutely was not.
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BB-8 was more of a macguffin/plot device than he was a comic relief.

My 13 year old got the Saga Blu-Ray set for Christmas. I watched all the documentary discs. I thought the OT BTS disc was a little anemic on the amount of info, considering it's a Blu-Ray. The documentary/spoof disc was a delight though. I have fond memories of those original TV docs so it was fun watching them again.

So I tried watching the original saga Machete Style. After watching IV and V, I couldn't muster the stamina to sit thru five hours of Prequel, so I just watched VI instead.
I think it's the first time I've watched the OT in a long time.
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BB-8 is definitely better than Jar Jar. I think he is more like the Ewoks. Ewoks were smaller, cuter versions of Chewbacca. BB-8 is just a smaller, cuter version of R2-D2.

I've seen ANH recently. But it has been a while since I watched ESB and ROTJ (unless you count the Family Guy version).
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I've watched the OT so many times, and have read/watched so much behind the scenes/making of stuff, my brain can't shut off that knowledge anymore and I just look at it like "that's in Arizona. That's in Tunisia. That's a matte painting. That's the same set shot from a different angle. They're only three feet off the ground there. There's a wire there. Frank Oz and seven other guys are right out of shot. They were unhappy with that shot but had to use it anyway. Those stormtroopers are out of work lumberjacks."
Etc etc.

I'm not watching a beloved movie anymore, just a deconstruction of one.
I don't think I do that with any other films either. Oh sure, I'll watch BTTF or Terminator and I'm consciously noting the effects look totally 80's. But I'm still watching the movie as a narrative. With SW I'm thinking "I bet that third Rebel trooper on the Tantive IV who gets shot has grandkids who brag that their grandpa was in SW." or "So, it's like the same eight guys in Stormtrooper costumes in all these scenes."
Either that or I'm wondering how Obi Wan went from Ewan to Alec in only 20 years. That's a rugged fucking planet. And everything he told Luke was a straight up bullshit story about his dad. And Chewie's home on Kashyyk looks like a fucking 70s sitcom set. That shit is wretched.
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I watched the original ESB & ROJ on VHS shortly after my first 2 viewings of the new movie. I found both really enjoyable, it had been awhile since I had seen them as well. For the first time though, I could see things looking dated - which makes me even more cranky with the special editions - if they didn't exist I wouldn't have shinier versions to compare mine to.
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It's funny because some of those Special Edition shots we all wanked over, like the new X-Wing approach to the Death Star fer instance, look especially dated as CGI shots go. They look like bad video game footage now.
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The worst isn't actually CG. They used a much better Wampa costume for the new scenes. Which would be awesome, except, um, they left a few shots of the old costume in, and it looks very different. It's almost as bad as when they missed replacing a shot of Sy Snootles with the CG monstrosity, so she suddenly grows her old tusks, then apparently loses them again.
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Having not seen many of the latest tweaks and updates until now, I'm glad they removed Luke's scream from the Bespin scene.
The new Emperor hologram from ESB looked good too. It's a shame there's no longer an Insecticon connection to Star Wars though.
And this is minor, but I'm so glad they remixed the audio from the gap chasm swing in ANH. The sound of Leia's blaster has annoyed the fuck out of me for YEARS. It was like "why the fuck is Leia using Dirty Harry's magnum??"

Hey, if the Outrider is still in ANH, does that mean Shadows is still canon?
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