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Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:12 pm
by Tom Foolery
I'm noticing a trend of people liking Claremont's X-Men.

70. Uncanny X-Men 14. First Sentinels.
69. Uncanny X-Men 212. Sabretooth v Wolverine during Mutant Massacre.
68. X-Men 30. Jean and Scott's wedding.
67. Amazing Spidey 13. First Mysterio.
66. X-Factor 1. The O5 reunite. To hunt mutants.
65. Uncanny X-Men 129. First Kitty Pryde. First Emma Frost. The Dark Phoenix saga begins.
64. Uncanny X-Men 256. Jim Lee begins his regular stint on UXM.
63. Uncanny X-Men 210. Mutant Massacre begins. This is also my very first X-Men issue.
62. New Mutants 1. I see a trend here.
61. Uncanny X-Men 100. Old X-Men vs New X-Men. Jean "dies" for the first time. Eventually we'll all lose track.

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:50 pm
by Tom Foolery
Halfway there. Or 3/4ths there. Considering 1-25 are already listed.

60. Uncanny X-Men 303. Little Illyana dies of the Legacy Virus. Very sad.
59. Iron Fist 14. First Sabretooth.
58. Fantastic Four 100. Uhmm...an anniversary issue?
57. Amazing Spidey 298. First Venom.
56. Uncanny X-Men 9. Early Avengers vs X-Men issue. Perhaps even the first.
55. Iron Man 225. The start of Armor Wars.
54. Marvel Spotlight 5. First Ghost Rider.
53. Fantastic Four 4. First Dr. Doom. EDIT. Sorry, this is Sub-Mariner getting his hobo face shaved by Johnny. Doom is issue 5.
52. Amazing Spidey 2. First Vulture.
51. Uncanny X-Men 108. John Byrne starts as artist.

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:25 pm
by Tom Foolery
Keepin' em coming!

50. Amazing Spidey 129. Diabolical's Holy Grail!
49. Uncanny X-Men 171. Rogue joins the X-Men.
48. Uncanny X-Men 225. Fall of the Mutants. The X-Men "die" in Dallas.
47. Uncanny X-Men 159. X-Men vs Dracula.
46. Avengers (vol 3) 1. After a whole year of shitty Liefeld Avengers, I bet this Busiek/Perez issue looked like the damn Sistine Chapel with Shakespearian word balloons.
45. Amazing Spidey 129. Holy crap! Frank is so money he gets on the list twice!
44. Uncanny X-Men 12. First Juggernaut and Xavier's origin.
43. Amazing Spidey 6. First Lizard.
42. Uncanny X-Men 58. First Havok. By Neal Adams.
41. Uncanny X-Men 3. First...Blob? WTH?

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:16 pm
by Tom Foolery
Almost done!

40. Wolverine 145. Logan finally got his Adamantium claws back.
39. Incredible Hulk 340. Famous Hulk vs Wolverine issue by McFarlane.
38. Uncanny X-Men 2. First...Vanisher?? Seriously, what's up with all these early X-Men issues? Mutants have dominated this list.
37. Wolverine 4. The end of the mini series by Claremont and Miller.
36. Secret Wars 1. Marvel's First "Event"
35. Amazing Spidey 3. First Doc Ock.
34. Silver Surfer 1. Norrin Radd's first solo issue.
33. Fantastic Four 12. Marvel's first official crossover issue as Hulk and Spidey showed up.
32. Uncanny X-Men 95. Thunderbird dies.
31. Journey into Mystery 83. Behold! The Mighty Thor!

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:34 pm
by Tom Foolery
The last five.

30. Uncanny X-Men 4. First Brotherhood. First Quicksilver. First Scarlet Witch. And also because it's a single digit issue of X-Men.
29. Tales of Suspense 39. Iron Man! Iron Man! Does whatever an iron can. Spits and sizzles. Squishes ants. Puts the creases in your pants! Look out, here comes the Iron Man!
28. Fantastic Four 5. First Dr. Doom. Wait, so what was 4 back in 53? Oh, that was Sub-Mariner. My bad.
27. Amazing Spidey 14. First Green Goblin.
26. Daredevil 1. The Kevin Smith version. Not the original 1964 issue. Which is weird, right? Every other Core hero gets his first appearance recognized. But DD gets pooched? That ain't cricket, yo.


So there you have it. The Top 100. Now you can start bitching about issues that aren't here. Like when Captain America told the President to go piss and gave up the shield. And then when he beat up USAgent and Red Skull and got it back. Or Tony Stark discovering alcohol. Or Tony Stark kicking Obadiah Stane's ass and getting his company back. Or Simonson's Thor. How about Thanos and Warlock's final confrontation. And so on.

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:39 am
by RoIIo Tomassi
jjreason wrote:Mark Waid's Man Without a Country was very, very good. I remember piecing those together, the final action sequence is very memorable. Also, I would suggest Gen X #1 might be Chris Bachalo's first Marvel work. That was a good series for a fair bit honestly, I tried pretty hard to dislike it but got well sucked in.
I dropped Cap right before MwoC started. That ArmorCap crap was awful(no disrespect to the late great Mark Gruenwald). But I also pieced it together later and loved it.
GenX unfortunately began just as I was getting sick of comics back in '95. I had the first ten issues(not to be confused with having ten first issues, but looking in my notebook that is ALSO true) but never got into it. However, I'm about six issues from having a complete run now and those are all between 67 and 74 of the 75 issue run. So maybe I'll dig into that run next.


Can somebody explain to me how shit like X-Force is on the list and NOT ONE issue of Kraven's Last Hunt is on there?!?
Comics Readers are dipshits.

Seeing as how the list was made in 2001, what would you guys nominate from the last twelve years to add to the list?

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:59 am
by Diabolical
RoIIo Tomassi wrote: Seeing as how the list was made in 2001, what would you guys nominate from the last twelve years to add to the list?
The start of either of Ennis' Punisher runs - Max or MK.
The Amazing Spidey 9/11 issue.
Magneto: Testament #1
Origin #1
Wolverine #41 - where Logan has to escape a war torn country with a baby strapped to his chest.

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:29 pm
by jjreason
Some of that Dell Rusk business near the beginning of the Bendis Avengers run was pretty good.

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:35 pm
by RoIIo Tomassi
I think Dell Rusk was a couple years before Bendis took over.

I would nominate issues from Whedon's Astonishing X-Men.
Especially the Giant Size Finale.
"Surprised, Miss Frost?"
"Astonished, Miss Pryde." [tear rolls down cheek]

And Fantastic Four 604.

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:51 pm
by jjreason
Astonishing - weird that wouldn't come to mind for me as I hold it in very high esteem. Any parts of Morrison's NEW X-Men worth a mention? If we're doing the greatest 100 issues since the greatest 100 issues I'd suggest something would. The wipeout of genosha maybe?

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:21 pm
by RoIIo Tomassi
Hmmm. I'd say New X-Men 150 was the biggie. Both Jean and Magneto died.
(just because weenie editors pooched the drama the following month with a poorly conceived retcon by that douchekebab Claremont doesnt mean the original story wasnt incredible).

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:30 pm
by anarky
That final Morrison issue (I ignore that bizarre future story after it, so sue me) was epic. It was downright pussified of Marvel to retcon it at all, much less so soon. "Magneto would never do that! He'd never send people to death camps! Because he survived one!" Yeah, shitheads, it's called irony. Magneto's obsession turned him into what he hated most. It's the only logical outcome for the character if he doesn't completely reform and become a hero.

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:43 pm
by Diabolical
I forgot about Whedon's Astonishing run also. Damn.

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:28 pm
by RoIIo Tomassi
That's because Astonishing should've ended when Whedon left. But they kept it going and diluted it with shitty writers like Daniel Way and made it just another X-Men series like the other nine. Besides Northstar and his husband, I'll bet none of you can name who else is on that "team".

Re: The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:27 pm
by jjreason
Did Warren Ellis try his hand at writing X stories in Astonishing? I think I might have 1-2 issues of that but then said fuck it. I used to like everything Warren Ellis did, but it stopped at some point during his release of all those weird 2-3 issue creator owned miniseries.

EDITED: Fuck, still need to read Global Frequency. ><