the vynsane asylum

JJ, I'm only considering posting the ideas here that couldn't happen. Things that would totally clash with subsequent continuity, or that involve reboots. Besides, I'm far more interested in my own stuff right now.

My Anarky, Superman, and Louie the Lilac ideas shall remain secret, as I could work them into DC continuity regardless, and would not mind getting a crack at them. And, yes, I'm serious about Louie the Lilac. He may be the dumbest Batman villain ever, but he only appeared in two episodes of the show and never in the comic, so he's a blank slate, and it would be fun to write a story that actually earned him some respect. I'm sure Perpantor would appreciate that.

Well even if the stuff "couldn't" happen, it might still be worth having someone at the companies have a look at them for quality.... but then I've never submitted anything to anyone for review except science projects and police reports that don't (well, shouldn't ) require much creative thought. Having your own art rejected by someone sucks - my wife has had a couple of kids books bounced already and it always hurts her feelings.

Reading over this entire, one of us should get plastic surgery to look like Joe Quesada and one of us gets to be Dan Didio. Then we replace the real guys and take over.

Spirit of Vengeance Wolverine working for Magneto's team alongside superhero Punisher and psychotic Darkhawk to save the world from Stegron's Velociraptors!

Beats the fuck out of Civil War.

I guess it doesn't entirely matter, since, looking over the EIC thread, I've put forward really basic versions of several things I'd come up with, like the Anarky storyline or Peter having to wear the symbiote again to save his life.

People would definitely be talking about "What happens NEXT!!!"


(and in a good way)

Couple brainstorm ideas.

The first is a variation of an idea mabudon bounced my way, so props to him. It's sort of a reverse "What if...?" where the protagonist of the series is either A. a time traveler or B. some kind of precog and he "forsees" huge continuity changing events before they happen and then swoops in and prevents ( usually at the last moment) the catastrophe from occuring. I haven't figured out the details, like the issues switch off with him "seeing" the events one issue and then waking up in the next issue and trying to prevent it from happening ( that way you could see the ramifications). Or if you could somehow integrate the two into the story simultaneously.

For instance, Dr. Doom assassinates Reed Richards which causes a huge war between the Iniative and a cabal of super villains that DESTROYS earth or something. Then the hero wakes up and he has to figure out how to prevent Doom from being in the right place at the right time to do the assassinating. You could also crossover with the rest of the Marvel U by having him fail occasionally. Like say he was trying to stop Crossbones from killing Captain America, but obviously he failed. And if you wanted to get really crazy with the stories, sometimes his successes lead to greater disaters which he has to prevent, or his successes lead to failures( like he stopped something happening, but that led to the Hulk being shot into space and therefore World War Hulk).

I was thinking of calling it "The Butterfly Effect" but not with a gay name like Butterfly.


My second idea is about the Fantastic Four. Something happens to the Four and they get shot across the universe and stranded on some planet a hundred trillion light years away, and some duex ex machina ( Reed develops amnesia) prevents them from getting home for a solid year (or more). So back on Earth, the comic begins following four seperate characters with no connection to each other. And at the same time, the other Heroes realize the FF is gone and decide they need to be replaced (in a sort of legacy, keep the public from despairing kind of way) and eventually the four characters we've been followiing become the new Fantastic Four. If they wanted to be real ballsy, they could split the original team up and drop them in four different corners of the universe and have four different 12 issue maxi series for each one trying to survive/get back home.

Fucking Stegron is going to invade the world now that Barack HUSSEIN Osama is president.

Obviously one I can't do myself, but I kinda dig the idea.

Some variation, I'm sure, has been done on this, but this is an ongoing series, and it never crosses into the mainstream or Ultimate Marvel universes. Some character names get changed so it's not a "hey, that's so-and-so!" seek-and-find like Ultimate or the movies. Some stay the same. There's no rhyme or reason to it, aside from "is giving this character this name telegraphing something from a future story or sealing his fate to become something else?" This would have to be a MAX title, since it's a twist on a character I doubt even that numbnuts Quesada would want to give to a kid, so it's got some additional leeway in the adult content department.

Here's the premise:

New York is a city gripped by terror: terror brought about by a psychotic vigilante calling himself The Spider-Man. His name is Peter Parker, and, when he gained super powers from a radioactive spider bite, it drove him irreparably insane. Mad with power, he essentially rules the city, though his warped mind insists on pursuing what he thinks is a secret identity, including his "job" as a photographer and high school attendance. When he's in "Parker" mode, everyone simply gives in to his seemingly normal wishes, since even the police and military have proven incapable of stopping him. Part of the trouble: he never removes his Spider-Man costume, which is poorly-sewn, but looks much like the 616 suit (albeit faded brown and green, and not a good fit at all). Needless to say, he's got quite a funk around him. He lives with and tries to keep his "secret" from his Aunt May, despite her having been dead for months after he broke her neck in a violent rage. He thinks he's involved in a love triangle with Mary Jane Watson and Gwen Stacey, two girls who hate and are deathly afraid of him, but whom he abuses semi-regularly. (At least Gwen--he thinks Mary Jane just doesn't put out.)

As Spider-Man (or, at least, when he thinks he's Spider-Man), he is unstoppable. His super senses and speed allow him to even dodge bullets, and woe be unto anyone who tries to stop him. The lucky ones die instantly. Spider-Man thinks he's part spider, so he even occasionally cannibalizes his victims. And he has no qualms about anything--he'll even hold up traffic to take a piss on the street in front of everyone, and they just pretend nothing's happening in the hopes of living another day. But, through it all, he honestly believes he's the good guy!

The federal government and even the United Nations finally cut off New York from the rest of the world, destroying the bridges and tunnels in a desperate attempt to keep this seemingly unstoppable Spider-Man from spreading his terror and destruction. All seems hopeless for the people of the city, as the rest of the world gives up on them. In the darkness, though, a ray of light emerges: the son of a wealthy corporate tycoon and philanthropist who was one of The Spider-Man's first victims. Using technology from the ruins of his father's company laboratories, he becomes the Green Goblin, the one man who might possibly have the power to take care of The Spider-Man once and for all.

It sounds like a silly fanboy concoction, but is written like a Vertigo title, about the depths of Peter's insanity. I actually think it could work, done right. If it were a mini-series, Green Goblin would win, and everyone would be jolly. If an ongoing, various Spider-Man villains from the 616 would show up, only they'd actually be heroes, trying to eliminate The Spider-Man.

Sounds like a perfect MAX mini-series.
Although if Marvel ever had the balls to publish something like this, they would almost have keep the name Spider-Man off of it.

The one thing I would suggest is when he's in Spider-Man mode that the reader gets glimpses of what he sees, his twisted reality. For example, when people are actually cowering in fear, Spider-Man sees them as cheering him on.

I don't have a whole hell of a lot off the top of my head, but how fucking cool would it be to have an alternate reality GIJoe comic set in the Civil War?

Think about the ins and outs of this.

All non-white characters would have to be on the Union side. Obviously, there aren't too many black Cobras, but imagine if the rest of the male "original 13" were segregated totally from Stalker, who leads an all-black regiment of Joes.

Zap would have to be Mexican, not Mexican-American. Maybe his family was in Texas when it became part of the US.

Cobra could be an English-funded agency in league with the Confederacy. We already know the CSA had some weapons that were way the hell ahead of their time.

The ninja stuff would have to be toned way down. Maybe it might have to go so far as having Storm Shadow be Chinese, since I'm not sure how many people of Japanese descent were in the US then.

There could even be some insane twist, like maybe John Wilkes Booth didn't kill Abraham Lincoln. It was really Zartan in disguise, and they went after and killed the wrong dude.

Holy shit, that's awesome.

Scarlet is an Undercover Union spy working in the south. You could make Snake-Eyes a black "house" slave who works for her undercover.

And Duke could get his nuts shot off at the battle of Antietam. Fuckin' prick.

anarky wrote:Angelica... is she married to the onetime Marvel Boy, under whatever alias he uses now?
I personally think they should bring back H.E.R.B.I.E., and show how he was emotionally devastated by Civil War.

He goes by Justice. And is one of the very few comic characters whose REAL name is way more awesome than his codename. If your name is Vance Astro, you don't need a fucking codename.

Zero wrote:Anarky is Joker's kid?!? And nobody does anything with that? Shame on the DC editorial staff!!! That's prime fucking real estate, story wise.

For DC, i think they should inexplicably make all the first stringers just dissappear. No explanations. One month they just aren't in their books anymore. And then you have all the second stringers step in and fill their shoes, Nightwing becomes Batman, Donna Troy becomes Wonder Woman, etc. But then have something happen where they aren't up to the challenge and get knocked out of commission, so then you have either third stringers trying to cope with being the A-listers, or you bring in entirely new people. What if Tim Drake had to be Batman? And if Drake was Batman, who would be Robin in the monthly Robin title? And how would that affect things if Bruce Wayne were just gone?

I've also thought about what would happen if a reporter or somebody figured out Bruce was Batman. Enough other people have figured it out. What would be a plausible explanation for a connection between Bruce and Bat? Bruce confesses to the reporter that a mysterious individual came to him many years ago, someone who had also lost loved ones, and convinced Bruce to fund his crime fighting. So all the gadgets and batmobiles are paid for by Wayne Enterprises, but Bruce has no idea who Batman is. This mystery man has since trained several people to act as Batman ( thus building a myth that there are several Batmen patrolling Gotham) but the one that Bruce first talked too, was killed years ago, and nobody can know about the batman conspiracy, and the reporter has to leave it alone for the sake of the city.

OH MY GOD! FUCK YOU GRANT MORRISON!!!! This is exactly what is happening in the Batman books. The reporter in question is Vicki Vale in those stupid one shots Bruce Wyane: The Road Home. And the multiple Batmen is the premise of Batman, Inc.

You fucking hack!!!

anarky wrote:I like that idea. (Batman and the reporter--you posted while I was writing this.) The idea of possibly being multiple Batmen could add so much to the "urban legend" factor of the character that's just been chucked away of late.

Howsabout this:

Bruce comes up with this story on the fly, but after his discussion with the reporter, he thinks, "Hmm, why aren't there multiple Batmen?" He's the first Batman, Nightwing becomes the second (still going by Nightwing as a code name, but with a more Batman-ish costume). Jean Paul Valley is revealed to not really be dead, and becomes the third. Tim Drake remains Robin, but takes on a more Batman-like costume as well. All the costumes are different (Bruce has the "classic," Dick has one with strong ties to the Nightwing costume. Jean-Paul has some hybrid of the last costume he wore and the Knightsquest costume. Tim's is the Robin costume without the red--maybe actually based a little on the Robin costume from the movies, but with a few definite "Batman" touches). This way, it's less likely that witness descriptions will ever match up. Hell, bring Batgirl, Huntress, and Batwoman in on the fun, and make their costumes less revealing and less obviously feminine. Even Jason, if he can keep his head somewhat together. The various Batmen are careful to not operate in the same place at once, so that there isn't a possibility of confirmed reports of two in one place, and, yet, the Batman myth seems more mysterious when witnesses say he pops up in multiple locations at once. And let's have Oracle coordinate it all. And retcon the death of Harold, if we're retconning anyway. His pointless death was the one part of Hush that pissed me off. I really like Harold, and he deserved better.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT PART II!!!! Grant Morrison DOES fucking troll vynsane.com

Damn, that is some creepy, spot-on shit.