What idiot comic book companies should realize:

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What idiot comic book companies should realize:

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Rule #1: Never allow there to be a status quo.

Rule #2: If you somehow fuck up and a status quo comes to pass, leave it. Never try to revert to a dynamic universe once you allowed there to be a status quo.

In other words, give Spidey back his costume, give Jubilee back her powers, and leave fucking Bucky dead!
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Holla.
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Now wait a minute. Grant Morrison fucked with the status quo and everyone was tripping over themselves to slap him on the back. Bendis came along and reinvented the boring Avengers and turned into the must readiest book on the stand. I agree fucking with the SQ just for the sake of fucking with it is wrong. The Spidey Armor does suck. Jubilee's misfortune does suck. The Bucky storyline is kinda cool though.

I could do woth some tighter continuity between books.

And my prediction for the Spider Armor? In a few months the huge summer crossover will commence. Spidey will be on one side. Iron Man on the other. In a crisis of conscience, Spidey will no longer be able to wear his newly gifted super armor and go back to his classic threads. Either that or the black outfit which is sweet.
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Good call, EP.

Good call, EP.
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Grant Morrison is an exception to the rule, but he tends to be such.
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Grant Morrison is a huge sack of shit, eh! If I ever saw that infernal cocksucker, I'd pummel him about the head and shoulders. There's no defence for his substandard treatment of Jean Grey.
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Sorry guys, apparently I don't read comics - and hence know not of what I speak.
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1129 + 7 = so you actually have 1135 posts?

Grant Morrison is English, so I can see how you might confuse him with a huge sack of shit. Because England is only one little English Channel away from France. And Frenchmen ARE huge sacks of shit. Fuckin' frogs.
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<br />And my prediction for the Spider Armor? In a few months the huge summer crossover will commence. Spidey will be on one side. Iron Man on the other. In a crisis of conscience, Spidey will no longer be able to wear his newly gifted super armor and go back to his classic threads. Either that or the black outfit which is sweet.
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basically why i'm not that up-in-arms about the iron-spider thing.
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Whatever happened to deadlines?

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At what point did the creative talent become so unprofessional as to no longer be able to meet deadlines? And so important to the publishers that they didn't just kick them off projects?

I don't read that many comics anymore, but looking around, it seems like 90% or more of books are late because of prima-donna creators who can't finish their work on time, and those rare "old school" folks who do consistently deliver on time are viewed as sort of archaic holdovers of a golden age, sorta like guys who hold the door open for women.

Is, say, Jeph Loeb so fucking important that he can deliver scripts three or four months after the original ship date of a comic without so much as a slap on the wrist. "Oh, thanks for getting it in, buddy. We had a pool going to see if you actually remembered you were doing this book." Why not say, "Look, we're going to let you slide this time, meaning that we're not going to totally take you out of consideration in the future. But get your act together. You finished #1 of a 5-issue miniseries on time, but #2-5 will be done by someone who's willing to do the work in a timely fashion."

It doesn't matter how good someone is, if they can't get their work in on time without a damned good excuse.
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Re: Whatever happened to deadlines?

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what was jeph loeb on that he missed deadlines?
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I whole heartedly agree. It's become trendy/ in vogue to hire the hot TV producer or best selling author dujour to do big name projects. Damon Lindleof, Kevin Smith, Jodi Picoult, Brad Metzler, Joss Whedon etc. But these people see their comics obligation as a cutsie side project and not their real job. Jeph Loeb is the worst because he got his big break in comics, and then went on to consulting projects for Television and movies and now HE thinks he's too good for his job?

Damon Lindleof has been working on Ultimate Hulk/Wolverine for three years?!?

Kevin Smith STILL hasn't finished Daredevil/Bullseye. I doubt he ever will. The revelance of the story in continuity is hopelessly incongruous.

Alan Heinberg managed to derail DC's Wonder Woman book from the get go and turn it into one of their worst sellers because of delays. I'm sure that's what they were going for when they decided to relaunch the book.



This is the where we give extra heapings of praise to writers like Geoff Johns and Judd Winick at DC, and Bendis and Brubaker at Marvel. Multiple titles per month and they are consistently the best stuff being produced at either company. It's because they are COMIC WRITERS first. They take their job seriously.
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Re: Whatever happened to deadlines?

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I'm talking about artists, too.

As for Loeb, Liefeld claims Onslaught Reborn is like a year late because Loeb isn't getting the scripts to him. He made the claim on newsarama, so I think if it wasn't accurate, it would bite him on the ass as so many other of his ridiculous claims have.
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Re: Whatever happened to deadlines?

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Artists I give a LITTLE more leeway for but not much. I think if historically you look at books of the past, artists had longer runs on titles of 20-30 issues, but they had fill-in issues just as often. Now artists are known for doing a four issue or six issue run of a title and then moving onto a different project. Having a fill in issue when you are only obligated to do four issues seems ridiculous, so they end up delaying the issue for a week or two. SOME artists I won't make excuses for like Bryan Hitch. I cringe for the upcoming Fantastic Four run.


I wish Joe Quesada would get tough and smart and insist that the ENTIRE arc both story and art be in the can before he'll solicit the book. And you don't get paid until it's gets solicited. There are enough writers and artists out there hungry for work that can meet their deadlines, you don't have to rely on jackanapes who really don't care.


But goddamn, man, are you really ranting about an ONSLAUGHT Miniseries?!? :???:
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