How I realized I was over Star Wars completely

[anarky]

I haven't read Deathtroopers, because it was a goofy idea. However, the "Maul in prison" novel by the same author was surprisingly great, so I want to at some point.

[Diabolical]

I agree with your canon Josh however I must say you should add the Thrawn Trilogy/Duology no matter how much you dislike it.

I didn't hate it. I just don't think it is as good as everyone says. As I've mentioned before, there was far too much: "Hey, remember this part from the movies you've seen hundreds of times? You do. Oh. Well, We're going to remind you again anyway."

I haven't read Deathtroopers, because it was a goofy idea. However, the "Maul in prison" novel by the same author was surprisingly great, so I want to at some point.

It was kind of fun if you read it as a goofy, what it?, non-canon book. If it was real (old) canon, then fuck, it is stupid.

[Diabolical]

Here, you jaded old fucks.
The next generation is excited, even though they have no idea what the fuck any of it means.

[anarky]

I was excited about Star Wars once, like Diabolical. Before the dark times, before Revenge of the Sith.

[Ran]

Here, you jaded old fucks.
The next generation is excited, even though they have no idea what the fuck any of it means.

They aren't reacting to the movie. They are all either farting or shitting. It's what they do.

[Jargo]

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country." Man, I'm tired of seeing that message on Pootoob videos. I'm in the UK, the 51st state. Not frickin' China or Burkina Faso.

Anyhoo what I was going to say was that reading the synopsis of Deathroopers, the only thing that struck me as cool was the number of 2-1B medical droids featured in it.

Wow, this post was hardly worth writing.

Speaking of stand alone movie, I'm going to be very disappointed if they don't do one based on the Hutts. CGI has come a long way since TPM and they could really do justive to the original Jabba character with a decent CGI version and some sort of bounty hunter shenanigans. So many cool alien species in SW and always consigned to tiny bit parts. Now would be the perfect time to give Jabba and his goons some love. Especially if they're going to do flashback stories like Rogue Squadron. I think I'd rather have two or three movies fill in those missing years than a TV show do it all half-assed. Plus there's only so much I can take of stormtroopers and the force weilders. I needs me some decent alien characters to stay interested.

Oh and if they're doing Rogue Squadron as a heist movie then at some point we've got to get a matching ROTJ prequel and see many Bothans die to bring the rebels information..... because those dudes are due some love too.

[Slicker]

I've got the most confused boner right now.

[mabudon]

you guys see the vanity fair stuff released today- fuck I wish I was not getting so damn stoked

EDIT also, ditto on the confused boner

[mabudong]

you guys see the vanity fair stuff released today- fuck I wish I was not getting so damn stoked

EDIT also, ditto on the confused boner

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True dat.

[Jargo]

saw the photos and vid, yeah. liked it apart from the new bounty hunter lair group shot. Seemed too much like Hellboy meets Labyrynth to me. Not a single recognisable Star Wars alien race among them. Disappointing. This galaxy far far away sure is populous to have so many worlds with so many different bipedal alien races on all of them. The chick that's going to be the CGI character, Maz, I hope will be a Hutt at least. Or some sort of tentacled squid thing. If they waste their efforts making her another bipedal character they might just as well have put her in a rubber mask.

I'm going to watch the six movies back to back this week for the first time in years. I watched a bunch of deleted scenes and out-takes on pootoob yesterday and it whetted my appetite. I've opted to watch bootlegged Bluray versions as I only have the 1997 SE on DVD which aren't brilliant quality. Not paying for the Blurays if they're shit too. see if I like these copies first.

There's a tickle of excitement about these new movies but I wouldn't say I was stoked. I don't want to get hyped and then be disappointed like I was with the prequels. I encountered some hilarious rumours about the plot yesterday. It reminded me how irritating a large percentage of SW nerds are. Almost as annoying as the pretend nerds who make videos stating SW facts that they clearly have no clue about and are lifted from troll posts on reddit. Having said that, i saw an interview with Mark Hamill where he mistook 2-1B for IG-88!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Clearly not a real fan of SW, pffft .

[mabudon]

man sounds like Mark Hamill dropped THE Deuce

[Jargo]

I think it was during day one of the SW Celebration event at Anaheim. He's onstage and talking about how a lot of characters were never named in the script and so during production it was 'pig alien' and 'walrus man' and 'ice creature' etc. Then he says something about Kenner naming those characters and says "we didn't know that IG-88 was the medical droid in Empire until the action figure came out" to a room full of die hard SW nerds. LULZ

Gotta say, out of all the stuff for TFA that I've seen so far I most like the planet Jakku with its downed star destroyers and AT-ATs and resemblance to Tatooine. That and the new star destroyer design, but mostly the fact that Jakku looks desolate like Tatooine used to be before GL started adding in so much civilisation. I'm also loving the use of McQuarrie designs here and there. Aside from tying it to the OT it's just nice stuff. I think if I buy anything related to the movie it'll be the art of TFA book, assuming there'll be one.

[Jargo]

I just counted how many anh cantina patrons there are. Using screencaps and production stills and including those seen entering and leaving the cantina I make it at least 93 humans and aliens. I'm bored BTW which is why I'm being anal. But yeah, I looked at all the production stills of the shooting of the sequence that I could find. Plus screencaps from all the various versions of the movie. I've cross referenced with various people's lists and blog posts on the subject. I expect all told there are probably a hundred patrons because there are bound to be some we just haven't seen photos of yet and unused shots and snippets in the LFL archive. I found three patrons I'd never spotted before just this morning. Two farmer types and a guy in a costume like an Imperial uniform. Which must make him a spaceport official.

I was looking at Mosep and Thaws Khaa the two Nimbanese characters and thinking how Imperial their costumes are and then it struck me that it was in the John Mollo costume design sketches. It makes sense that the spaceport would be Empire run and it follows that the uniform would have a sort of Empire flavour to it. The fact that the Nimbanese wear red marks out a distinction in rank or duty. The human wearing the uniform in the cantina appears to be in either grey or white. hard to tell with a B&W photo but it could be blue or green too. Anyway, it makes the idea of Mosep being Jabba's accountant seem utterly stupid. Recieving backhanders from Jabba maybe, but not directly employed by him. Then there's Boelo and Geela Yeens and the big bearded chap we see in docking bay 94. They're in the cantina so the connection with backhanders and turning a blind eye to smuggled goods seem more plausible. George though completely ignores that aspect of the cantina to concentrate on showing us all the different aliens and some melon headed musicians. Oh and then some silly business with Greedo. I have to wonder if George or his assistant director ever filmed any business with these spaceport officials that was never used. It would have made more sense of Mos Eisley and the cantina to see a dodgy deal going on. Made more sense of Ben's line about scum and villainy than Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba being pissy with Luke.

See, if i was George and I'd been disappointed with the cantina sequence because the alien masks didn't look good. And then with CGI I could go back and add digital masks and animate certain faces I would pick up on the setting the scene with that rather than adding more aliens and making Mos Eisley ten times bigger than it was. Or fannying around with who shoots first. In fact I might go so far as to shoot new footage with those spaceport dudes in uniform and not waste time with the approach to the cantina and mcguffin with Jawas and Ronto. Maybe when the Stormtroopers enter the cantina have one or more of the spaceport officials duck out of view. I dunno. Anything that informs the viewer how awful the place is instead of how cute the aliens are.
Lie I said, I'm bored and probably rambling. It was just something that struck me while rewatching the movie and perusing photos. It's not a biggie but it colours my take on the movie.

[jjreason]

It speaks to the richness of both the Cantina & Jabba's Palace that we can still see new things 30 plus years later.

[Jargo]

This is true. Though I think people tend to fall into two categories; those who mostly remember the big creature scenes and those who mostly remember the lightsaber battles. There's a third category of people who dwell on the large battle scenes, but I feel they're a much smaller group. I've always been most interested in the creatures. For me it was what set SW apart from all other sci-fi. The amount of alien creatures and the amount of work involved in bringing them to the screen even if it didn't always end up looking brilliant. My main interest in training as an actor all those years ago was to become a creature performer. Sadly it didn't pan out but I've played various roles where I got to be creatures and always relished the more punishing physical side of acting.

further to my earlier comments about TFA not having any recognisable aliens in it I did relook at the photo of the pirates and I think one is supposed to be a Baragwin like Hermi Odle. Another guy resembles Trinto Duaba. I guess they just look different like the Aqualish in the prequels having a more spider like look with four eyes and non flipper hands. I just don't see why they have to make things different when the look has been established. Fair enough, modern materials like silicone rubber give a different and more realistic finish but why alter the physiology of an alien race that's so iconic? It's just silly.